[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: welcome to the "the young turks." you know mitt romney picked paul ryan. paul ryan is already getting booed on the campaign trail. >> as i said, you must not be from iowa. hey, already. >> cenk: hey, all right. i'm going to tell you who the real paul ryan is, and why you should be booing him and what his plans are for you. when i give you the numbers they're devastating. you got to watch the first two blocks of this show. it shows you who the real paul ryan is. the government has decided to work with private contractors to spy in on all of us. >> thousands of cameras that record our every move. now there is a way to funnel all that information into one

location and one computer system. >> cenk: well, they're spying on you. you think they're not? they're absolutely are. we're going to show you the evidence on that. you know how we do the news analysis every week? i'll show you the show "newsroom" as it relates to real newsrooms. >> after 9/11 we started doing the exact same thing. i didn't spend my life fighting communists to have it come to this. >> cenk: all that our government does that i tell you about earlier in the show? this is the sad news about the newsroom, they don't give a damn. we'll show what you they care about and what they don't care about later on in the show. huge show. it's go time. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: well, over the weekend

as michael shure reported here on thursday night, in fact, paul ryan was picked by mitt romney. there was reporting that there was going to be a pick. we'll get to the paul ryan part later on in the show. now the question is who is the real paul ryan? first of all, paul ryan is out there on the campaign trail attacking president obama immediately, of course. watch. >> where are the jobs, mr. president? if you have a small business, you did build that small business. >> cenk: yeah. that's that same, tired old schpeal. do you know who built paul ryan is?the government. what does paul ryan have in store for you and how important is it?

>> romney: join me in welcoming the next president of the united states, paul ryan. [ cheering ] >> cenk: now i know he misspoke there when he said president. president obama said more things but here in this case it's more telling. because paul ryan has the budget plan for the republicans. one that mitt romney has enthusiastically backed before? what is in that budget plan because that's critical of how they'll governor. let's let paul ryan speak. >> you'll broaden the base, which are used by those tax payers. we're show in washington prudence and discipline. here's the deal. take away the tax shelter from the high income individual so she can't shelter their income from taxation and you get more to taxation. >> we'll cut spending elsewhere in a smart way.

>> cenk: now he said all the tax shelters--nonsense. he specify it. it's obvious. if you take away any deductions. the number one deduction is home mortgage deduction. that's guts the middle class. when he talks about cuts, oh, it will go to everybody. he eliminates capital gains and dividends cuts. taxes all together. do you know what that means? that means the rich get an enormous bonus. he cuts it from 35% to 25%. he takes away your child credit, home mortgage deduction and who does he give the proceeds to? the most wealthy individuals in the entire country. let's look at a proposal and give you numbers. first of all he cuts $5.3 trillion in spending. 62% of that is from lower-income

people. what happened? i thought you cared about the middle class--you don't give a damn. and who does it give it to? you see it right there. 2 trillion-dollar in tax cuts that go predominantly to the rich. i mean you want to t robbing the poor to pay the rich if you thought romneyhood was bad wait until you get a look at ryanhood. let me give you more details. he would gut medicare and medicaid. what do i mean by that? he would take $800 billion from the medicaid program over the next ten years. and he cuts discretionary spending by $19 billion. that's affordable housing heating, cooling systems, child care system. public haste health. he adds to the defense budget. he adds $203 billion. now to give you a sense of how ridiculous this budget proposal

is and to the core of who paul ryan is and who apparently mitt romney is, do you know if you applied fall paul ryan's plan, by the end of his scheduled cuts, the discretionary spending non-medicare non-medicaid, non-defense, would be cut by 91%. that's comical. that's ridiculous. that's the fbi. that's the fda checking to see if your food is poisoned. that's veterans benefits education, custody by 91%. look this should be an automatic disqualifier. he wants to cut all those programs by 91%. you should be done. but having a serious conversation about this guy who is some libertarian lunatic honestly. he believes in others who are

lunatics i'm serious. that's later in the show. president obama said, hey look, we'll let the american people know about who this guy is. they immediately have an ad out. here's what it says. >> the paul ryan medicare plan turns medicare into a voucher system. >> the paul ryan budget, which cuts aid to the disability, to immigrant children's, aid to the elderly. >> it would cut pell grants to college students by $170 billion and cut off a million students over the next decade. >> the cuts are so traumatic, so painful. >> cenk: you know what, that's all true based on numbers that i gave you. but it gets worse. you know romney reported one return and the $20 million that he made his income. the paul ryan plan with cuts for

the rich are so deep that mitt romney would have paid a .82% rate on his taxes. he wade a comically low 13.9% as it was. this is less than 1% that he would have paid, and the guy has over $250 million. this is to rob from the poor and the middle class to pay the rich. this is unbelievable. mitt romney, paul ryan's plan. >> romney: some people are saying that you're making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> romney: well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i've put out and that's the budget plan that we're going run on. >> cenk: i'm not running on ryan's plan. i'm running on romney's plan. there's a big difference. but this is what mitt romney said earlier about paul ryan. >> romney: i think it would be marvelous if the senate were to

pick up paul ryan's budget and run it. >> cenk: this is the republican plan, one that mitt romney has called marvelous in the past, as you just saw. finally when they tested this plan on the american people--pollsters did--here is an amazing quote. it said from according to "the new york times," from the beginning when we polled we found that the ryan plan was the most toxic political document ever but the problem was you couldn't convince voters that any politician would actually support it. do you understand that? this thing is so horrible that when you show people, hey, are you in favor of this? they say come on. don't be ridiculous. no politician would support something like that. not only does he, he's now the v.p. pick, and he has the presidential pick saying, i support this guy completely.

don't under any circumstance make the mistakes unless you're a millionaire of thinking about voting for these guys. they'll rob you to pay the rich donors. when we come back, all the myths about paul ryan. he cares about the deficits. he cares about women etc. i'm going to shatter all those. this is what the media is running on. >> i keep the body fat at 6% and 8%. >> what do you away? >> 163. >> how tall are you? >> 6'2". >> cenk: that's supposed to appeal to women? i'm going to show you what paul ryan has in plan for women when we come back. later in the program, all the cameras that you see in public? they're spying in on you and collecting that data. we'll tell you more. >> if this all sounds big-brother-like the mayor said we should be more afraid of the threat of terrorism. >> the bad guys have everything that we do too.

they're doing this this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>that's an understatement, eliot.

[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: now if i were president obama's team, how would i attack paul ryan? it's very simple. i would tell the american people the truth. now, there is a myth behind paul ryan that he's anti-government anti-deficits, and that he would appeal to women. what a joke. let's take the anti-government position okay? he said, oh, big government is no good at all. except it turns out that he got his entire education through social security. let me give a couple of quotes. with his father's passing young paul collected social security benefits until age 18 which he

put' for college. ryan credits his father's death and the care of his grandmother giving him first-hand experience of how social service programs work. let me get this right. you take social security money. you use it to get an education. and then afterwards you want to cut the social security that goes to other people, burn the bridge down after you cross it. how about this big--you got to get in there, the entrepreneur and working the business. this is his private sector experience. flipping burgers at mcdonald's and he was also a fitness trainer. this is his actual experience, 21 years in the government. first worked as a senate aide and then congressman for 13 years. where is your big private sector experience? i thought you hated the government. you have lived over the

government your entire life. he breathes and lives the government. he loves the benefits of the government. he just doesn't want you to have the benefits from the government. anti-government, my ass. so then we move on to, well, oh, he doesn't like deficits. really? that's curious. first of all before we get to the fact on his emphasis, i want to you get something in your head. it's that he created the deficit. how are we going to do that? a fun little thing here. alvin green. he went on lawrence o'donnell's program and this was awhile back. the senate seat in south carolina, and he was a terrible interview, but it was funny because he just kept repeating the same line. here watch. >> first, i want to remind everyone that demint started the recession. demint started the recession. demint is responsible for the recession. demint started the recession

and i'm the best candidate. that's a fact. demint started the recession. demint started the recession. >> um, okay. >> cenk: now the reason why i played that is whatever you think of the deficit i want to you think paul ryan created the deficit. paul ryan created the deaf set. that's not just propaganda. that is not a talking point. that is reality. first of all let me show you when he talked about all the wars and spending, he voted yes opposite tarp. i thought you were get government spending, huge $27 million. i thought you were against stimulus and voted on a bailout for g.m. and chrysler. voted yes on $192 billion anti-recession stimulus spending. what happened? i thought you were against government spending. point number one. point number two on the wars, voted yes on iraq.

and volted yes on emergency pending. and voted yes on declaring the war with no exit dates. and then voted on deploying troops out of the united states. iraq and afghanistan have cost us $1.26 trillion. what happened? i thought you didn't like deficits. you love deficits. bailouts war. ex parte voting no on requiring negotiated drug prices. that means that the government cannot even negotiate with the pharmaceutical programs because paul ryan is dependent on the pharmaceutical companies. saying no, no, we can't negotiate. that's a much higher deficit. he voted to make the tax cuts

permanent, more deaf edit. show me is about-a. this is amazing. this gives you a sense of how much the deficit is ryan's fault. that's the wars in iraq and afghanistan. that's the yellow part that created the deaf set. the orange part is bush-era tax cuts. $2.8 trillion. the lighter were you and then darker blue, you see the very, very bottom, the black there that you can hardly see that's what the deficit would be today if it weren't for all of the programs that paul ryan supported. paul recent created the deaf is the. him and his cohorts and the republican party createed it. you show me which is anti-deficits, lies,

nonsense--and we're supposed to believe he's pretty and that's how they'll attract women voters voters. this is the nonsense that they're running on right now. >> insanity. >> i keep my body fat between 6% and 8%. >> he's abscessed with fitness. >> pull ups push ups sit ups. >> cenk: oh, yeah, he's so pro vim and women like him--no. wait until he calls 51% of the population by calling them idiots. he voted no on birth control coverage for federal employees. cosponsor of the sank tight of human life act that would make some forms of birth control illegal. voted at least four times to

defund planned parenthooded. voted no on the lily ledbetter act which would give us us equal wages for equal jobs. he would have voted no, no, no on all the women's rights issues. but he has got abs. finally, there is some mean going around the internet. it's combining ryan gosling and what he would say to girls and it's protectly appropriate here. he says, hey girls i hope you're military class i'm so totally ready to screw you. ain't that the truth. currently in iowa covering the presidential campaign for president obama, michael you just heard what i would do if i were obama. what is president obama in fact doing? how many lines of attack have they started.

>> hi, change, the audio is a little rough. they just got through speaking and they called paul ryan the ideological leaders. and i think that is the way they're going to go with this. they're going to paint him as a radical, extremist and and yes. >> stephanie: michael, the sky is not working great so we'ring it it leave it right there. we'll have more as this campaign unfoldses and we'll tell but their strategy. they're trying to paint them as radicals because he is a radical. for all the reasons why i sprained in the last few minutes. we'll talk about whether this helps or hurts a radical.

the problem is the press going it tell but that, or are they going to go neutral. finally, all the cameras that are spying in on you. how are they storing it and where are they working? >> the cameras would only be accessed in public whys. so no one is going to be value these. >> cenk: and the newsroom takes on michelle bachmann. were they right or were they wrong. we'll talk about the issue of christianty, and was it a. >> she's saying that god spoke directly to her. how is this not the first question asked in a debate? how is it not the only question.%

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more than everybody thought. first of you will, this is what we already knew that the government is doing. >> ohio's homeland security department is working on a plan to connect every public and private security camera in the state. >> according to a new government report, law enforcement agencies across the country asked the major u.s. cell occurrier couriers to turn overeover text and voice mails. >> run of the mill criminal intelligence as it happens they'll be accessing database from around the world. >> cenk: we're just at the tip of the iceberg. i want to remind everyone of a little thing of the fourth amendment in the constitution.

this is how it goes. unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violates and no one shall issue but upon probable cause supported by oath or of afy imagination and participation in the things to be searched and to be seen. but apparently the fourth amendment is irrelevant now because the government is not following it at all. the democrats don't complain because they're doing it under president obama. the republicans don't complain about it they're the ones who started doing it under bush. the rest of the news, don't cover it. second amendment. second amendment. second amendment matters to much. what? we don't need those stickin' horns. now we find out there is a program called trap wire, which should make all this worse than we released. let me brag about what trap wire does.

>> once the system. it is analyzed and compared with data entered from other areas of the network for purpose of identifying patterns of free-attack planning. this is the system. where they take cameras all over the country new york, l.a. sometimes from private casinos sometimes from public streets. they analysis analyze all together of people they have no reason to search, including you. they have put it in a database, and they have recognition software. they say in case you're thinking of pre-attack behavior we're going to track your ass. they further explain, the company doing this program for the company in 2005, their founder said, trap wire can collect information about people

and vehicles that is more accurate than facial recognition, draw patterns a and do threat assessments of areas that my be under observation from terrorists. of course, it always starts with "we're tracking terrorists." oh look at that, we caught someone else who may be doing something illegal with an associated force or unassociated force. the list goes on and on. the e-mails that an anonymous people broke into trap wire, we find out more about the program. and on wikileaks they're tracking more. but first, trap wire, may be the most successful invention on the gwot global war on terrorism. now they have every major

high-valued target like cities like vegas, new york etc. as clients. meaning this private corporation has gotten all the video feeds from all those cities. they're analyzing for the government. they're spying in on you and they don't give a damn about your rights. that's the reality of what's happening in this country right now. all right, i want to bring in one of the few journalists in the country who care about this. david seaman who has been writing about this plans to be a candidate for congress in the next cycle as well, not this one. david, first of all, talk to me about this--the substance of this program. why should we be so concerned welcome visit also say so what. if you're not doing anything wrong, you're not a terrorist you don't have anything to worry about. >> sure, you mentioned the

minority report and a lot of people are drawing that comparison. in the minority report they go after pre-crime. this is worse than science fiction or novels, it's worse because they're using their incredible power to go an capital crime--murder. i'm not making this up. their algorithm, if they don't like the way you walk or they'll flag you in their system. they have information they're pulling from all over the country. some of the e-mails that came out were a couple of years ago and since then they've had two years of progress to improve their network. if their computer system does not like what you're doing you're flagged as suspicious, and it's really--it's really frightening. where is as you said, where is your fourth amendment protection? and where is the right to face

your accusers. this computer program decides you're a threat to the united states? who are you going to argue again. it's quite orwellian. the possibility of abuse now or in the future. under president romney or whoever, the possibility of abuse is absolutely mastiff. >> cenk: thomas drake was at the nsaa whistle blower, and he said look, they're monitoring private communications among american citizens. william benning, among others, said that they have got folders on american citizens. david, is that possible? i mean, have they slipped from just trying to track terrorists, which makes sense to tracking all of us? >> when you have absolute power which they're very close to at this point, it's very easy to

shift the goal post and change the definition of innocence. one of the most damning e-mails that we've seen, which can wikileaks has leaked several e-mails. in one of those they say we need to get the camera running in francisco more for activists than terrorists. that should terrify you that they're using this program to go after people who do not mean to do harm as civilians and to track activists and protesters across the country. everything that america stands against. if this were happening in any other country in the world, i think we would be on the edge of our seats condemning them. >> cenk: one last quick question. how do you think the rest of the media has covered this story? >> it feels like a black out or a cover up. clearly this is something that

interests people. i covered mdaa earlier a lot, and moot did not pick up on that. you can say they didn't pick up on it because people don't care. you can take away people's rights, and if you feel that there is a chance that your own rights will not be infringed upon, you just don't care. that's a sad reality. but your rights are being infringed. when go to las vegas, they take photos your information is being thrown into a file. william benning claimed that they are intercepted trillions of electronic communication between americans citizens. it's concerning, and republicans nor democrats are willing about this. >> cenk: thank you so much for joining us. thank you for covering it too. later in the program we'll talk about how the media is handling it and my take on that. and then coming up next we'll

talk to michael shure about the politics of that. it may help romney in some ways. and remember we had a bet who he would pick as vice president. how did that turn out? we'll find out. >> i'm going to shock the world and pick-- [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] of sununu, you're wrong. mitt romney, you're wrong. we need more teachers, not fewer teachers and more cops and more firefighters that support our

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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: all right our epic political correspondent michael shure is here. he broke on this program that the white house was preparing for the vice presidential election for romney this weekend. you were right. but you were not right about everything that we did in a day. we picked a v.p. draft. >> we're going to draft different v.p. possibilityies. whoever drafts the right pick, we'll win $20. >> i'm going to shock the world

and pick paul ryan. >> cenk: damn. who is that in the middle of the ring i see? who is it? oh no, not epic! all right michael you didn't think it was going to be paul ryan. >> i didn't think it was going to be. not only did you end up with him, you picked him first. which in these drafts ending up with someone is right. if condoleezza rice got t you would not look brilliant. but you did pick him first and you look brilliant. here is a $5 and then 15 $1. knew what does the poll say. >> this will effect the race and give a volt of energy to a

campaign that needed a volt of energy. the vice presidential nominee rarely, unless it goes horribly wrong like eagle ton did even with dan quayle and with with palin they didn't have an effect on the race. >> cenk: paul ryan is a disaster of epic proportion, but i think it might help romney in some way. with the base which was angry with romney, not being sufficiently conservative, loves paul ryan. here is the ironic part, the more they attack the team, he really wants to slash the budget. it might help romney that way. >> you know, the thing that is going to get the base going is problem. it's not going to be paul ryan in an enduring way.

they're excited in virginia. we saw that over the weekend. they're excited on the trail. this is a piece of news, and the romney campaign needed a piece of news. but when you look at the totality of paul ryan and what he represents, he's not going to help them in florida. if anything that's going to hurt them in florida. and that's a state that they badly needs. >> cenk: he said, it's not for the current seniors but isn't that an it itthat a tacit admission? i'm not going to hurt seniors today but other seniors who will be voting later on. you know, again let's not--it's what mitt romney is doing. he's still the nominee and he's embraceing paul ryan and mitt romney will have a hard time going to florida and selling that.

>> cenk: one last thing that may effect the race. he was the biggest brown noser in high school. he was one of the hill's hottest 50 in 2008. that's and he's a fan of any rand, who is a lunatic libertarian who idealize super killers because they're super men. >> he tried to pull in a back in the primary. >> cenk: does that hurt? the most influential thinker of his lifetime. >> nothing hurts him. he's the vice presidential nominee. only mitt mitt romney can hurt paul ryan right now. >> cenk: i disagree. when ryan has said these crazy things that he wants to propose etc. rubs off on mitt romney. apparently you like that guy. you picked him as your number two guy. >> that's true. also, i've said it awhile now on the turks. he needs someone who can vouch

to the conservatives that mitt romney is okay. he's got that in paul ryan. he has a savvy attractive agreeingsive guy saying that this is good for you. >> cenk: you got to understand something. it depends on how obama attacks okay? now if they soft pedal it or get overconfident, ryan could energize the conservative base and be a positive for mitt romney. but if they do to him what they did to romney? then the romney-ryan ticket is in a lot of trouble. watch for the obama team to decimate ryan, and then it could have a positive affect for the obama squad. now when we come back, we we've been covering "newsroom" a lot on this show. this is a reason for it. what they do in newsrooms across the country matter. then i got mad. here is what they don't care about--the news.

i'll explain that when i come back. >> nay source says house republicans continue this debate, i hope they're willing to mark the end of the dollar as global reserve currency. to the best political foresight. first pick, i'm going to shock the world and pick, paul ryan. brillant. okay... with the number that just came out he's more inclined to throw long. in which case, i think the long one is paul ryan because the risks are higher. here in the obama war room... putting satire aside, i agree paul ryan would be great for democrats. for us it would fame the intellectual debate. see the future "live" weeknights starting at 7pm. uygur. spitzer. granholm. only on current tv.

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for you all. ben mankiewicz has been helping us with this from turner classic movies, of course. ben, what happened in this episode. >> well, first of all we discussed how the media operates in this country. i'm not sure that the "newsroom" has correctly pegged the way the media operates. it's the way we would like for them to operate. there has been month romance but it's a two-part episode so it seemed incomplete. i'm sure we'll get hit with a ton of stuff tomorrow. the head of the news division, sam water son, i has learned from his source from the nsa that they're pulling a news corporation. they're hacking phones to get information. and to put stories in the magazine there in the tabloid magazine. in the process the show takes us to the nsa data mining, which is a polite way to describe massive

massive, warrantless wiretapping against people who are not terrorist as soon as we're going to show you the clip and then afterwards show you how a newsroom handles a situation like this. >> why are you whistle blowing. >> the soviets the way their government made people live their lives was a very good reason to fight them. after 9/11 we started doing the exact same thing. i didn't spend my life fighting communism to have it come this way. >> cenk: i wish, ben, they would operate in a way where they cared about a whistle belower like that. but in this data mining, and none of the newsroom that i've i've spoken, give a rats. if the democrats say something that's relevant. but and if the republicans say

that, it's very well haven't. but if they agree, it would be, like whatever. i don't think they would be excited at all. >> i think we know bass by and large, and i'm sure there were significant exceptions, but by and large this business did not cover data mining, which again is warrantless wiretapping on americans who aren't doing anything wrong. you're right we don't. >> cenk: look, i love they've created this fictional newsroom that they care. it's not that fictional because it exists right here. because it's right here on the show. but the ones i've been in there they are carrying about the news and devoid of politics. >> it was not just the warrantless wiretaps, the data mining they're feeling pressure to cover the anthony casey trials. and then the they say we got to cover. we have to cover the republicans

refusal to raise the debt ceiling. the executive is saying why can't it wait. >> we should have been leading with it every night. to give people time to call their congress and say. [ bleep ] if you do this, you're fire: to give people at the district offices to give people time to say, i'm a fiscal conservative, and you got to put the pin back in the grenade right now. >> cenk, before you worked for current, you worked in this world. when they were raiding the debate on--when they were raising the debt ceiling. >> cenk: this was better because democrats were attacking republicans on it. it became part of the political games that cable news covers. outside of that context that a producer would be that excited

or anyone at cable news would be saying oh my god what am i doing to the country? those are not the conversations they have. they talk about team x and xy and are we going to cover them. >> it pains me that i can't stop watching it, but there are moments like this that again this is what you hope newsrooms talk about. for that part you have to give them credit for. >> cenk: absolutely. one thing we don't have time here they talk about michelle bachmann, it's a conversation that we've had on the young turks. what kind of lunatics think they're having conversations conversations with god. >> the question that should be asked, what does god sound like, michelle. >> cenk: they won't ask that question because they want to access the republicans. that part is really. the access thing is one of the most important things in cable news. they'll do whatever they can to placate democrats and republicans and the fact that they're covering it in an

entertainment show is amazing and we highly commend them. ben, thank you again for this week. we appreciate it. when we come back, oh, right, as a network we'll go to "viewpoint" with eliot spitzer. eliot, what do you have for us. >> eliot: you almost forgot again. i'll have to call you after the show. we'll be discussing paul ryan. is he the intellectual leader of the republicans leaning hard right. the issues that people don't know that paul ryan has taken the hardest right he's the fringe of the fringe. they'll begin to understand him in a very different way shortly. it will start on this show. >> cenk: he smiles a lot oh, he seems like a friendly guy. no watch eliot's show and see what his proposals are. thank you eliot. when we come back, we've been hitting paul ryan hard this

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(vo) now, it's your turn. (vo) connect with the young turks with cenk uygur. >> it's go time. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: who is. >> caller: rsk fireworks bolts welcome he's the man who president obama put as co-chair of his deficit-cutting commission. he's also the guy who is the next treasury. what does he think of paul ryan? >> have you ever met paul ryan? we should get him to come to the university. this guy is amazing. i thought this guy was i was okay

with arithmetic? this guy can run circles around me. the budget he came forward with is just like paul ryan. sensible straightforward honest, serious budget and it cuts the budget deficit like we did, 4 trillion-dollar. >> cenk: why would president obama want to make him the head of the next treasury sector? because he wants to cut this stuff. it's not just me. smaller cost of living adjusts for social security. cut from medicare. $110 million cut from medicaid. president obama has offered to cut all these things. "the new york times" recently reported that president obama is angry he didn't get enough credit for wanting to cut medicare and social security. unfortunately, yes, paul ryan wants to cut it much